.(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) (Jul 17, 2010 / 17:50 CST)

By God’s law and by schentific proof abortion is NEVER justifiable.
The sperm and ovum each have a haploid chromosome count and not yet identifiable as human.  AT CONCEPTION the count becomes full and therefore identifiable as HUMAN and nothing else.  At CONCEPTION all activities of life begin (respiration, locomotion, nutrition, hydration, growth, elimination, future potential for procreation), and therefore we have LIFE.  Our laws, both religious and civil, prohibit the taking of life (especially innocent life).
All efforts are to be taken to preserve BOTH lives and neither may be taken (ended) intentionally.
If, however, normal procedures to preserve the mothers life lead to the UNINTENTIONAL death of the child this is not abortion since it was unintentional and unsought.  (This may answer for those with the ectopic pregnancy question.) Some of these (when abdominal) are relocatable at a future date.
NEVER is the intentional destruction (termination) of life permissable in the case of a mother and child.

.(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) (Apr 17, 2010 / 17:34 CST)

Ali, I don’t believe a person can be “for the most part” pro-life. And I don’t think that rape or incest should justify abortion by any means. There are times when a girl/woman could get pregnant from a situation like that, but also there are miscarriages a lot of times. But when there are not, and you decide to get an abortion because it’s technically not your fault that you got pregnant, is it the babies? Why should an innocent life be killed? Of course it would be extremely traumatic and a handful, but I believe that having an abortion would cause a lot more trouble in the long run, traumatically and emotionally.

.(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) (Oct 24, 2009 / 12:21 CST)

“In 1999, a healthy baby boy was delivered in London after having implanted in his mother’s fallopian tube. When the tube ruptured, the embryo attached itself to the mother’s uterus and spent the rest of the pregnancy in the mother’s abdominal cavity. In 2000, a healthy baby girl was delivered in Nottingham (UK) despite the fact that she spent the duration of her ectopic pregnancy attached to the lining of her mother’s bowels. In 2005, a woman in Hertfordshire (UK) gave birth to a healthy baby girl, despite the fact that she spent the entire pregnancy in her mother’s abdomen. In 2008, an ovary-based, ectopic pregnancy delivered a healthy baby girl in northern Australia.”

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/443373.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/671390.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/beds/bucks/herts/4197194.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7427907.stm

The medical field loves experimenting with stems cells etc, why can’t they start trying to implant those babies who would otherwise die.  I’m not saying don’t go to the doctor.  I AM saying we live in a day where most things are possible through the medical field, why should they try to save these tiny babies?  Give them a chance!

.(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) (Oct 24, 2009 / 12:14 CST)

Christa, what country is this where ectopic pregnancies can be re-planted in the uterus??????  Or should I ask, “What planet?”  Forgive my rudeness, but your comments really made my blood boil.  Had ANY of the doctors who cared for me, told me that my baby could be saved, I would’ve jumped at the chance. 
In Catholic moral theology, the event of an ectopic pregnancy is one of the only cases where the forseeable death of an unborn child is allowed.

.(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) (Oct 24, 2009 / 10:58 CST)

You can’t be pro life and say well I’m prolife EXCEPT for rape, incest, safety of the mother, etc.  Besides the fact that it’s never necessary to abort a baby for the mother’s health because in VERY extreme cases they induce early and with our modern medicine most of those babies LIVE. 

In Rape or other stressful cases, you are not likely to get pregnant to begin with because of the stressful situation and if you actually do get pregnant (it’s like a .01 percent of a chance) you would be likely to miscarry because of the emotional trauma.  If you don’t miscarry, adopt the baby out if you can’t deal with having the baby around.  A lot of studies have shown it is MORE traumatizing to be raped and then have an abortion, then to have the baby.  This way you actually might see something precious come out of it.

Ectopic pregnancies: As for me, I believe you are still having an abortion with a doctor taking your child out of your tubes.  I can’t imagine being in the position, but if more women stood up and said I want you to implant this baby, they would!  It’s been done in other countries, why not here?  It IS possible!

.(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) (Oct 04, 2009 / 18:38 CST)

NannyM, I don’t understand your position—if your child has cancer, that’s God’s will, too, right? According to your way of thinking we’re “playing God” when we fight cancer! According to you, we should we all just “see what happens” to EVERY situation, since God is ultimately in control. And what about this: no one’s forcing all those American women to get those abortions. What are we supposed to do, start arresting them? Take them to jail? Force them to have babies there?

.(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) (Sep 30, 2009 / 14:57 CST)

I agree this article should be removed. Ectopic pregnancies are a serious health concern. The removal of an ectopic pregnancy for the safety of the mother can NEVER be placed in the same category of woman having abortion in the name of ‘choice’. This is insulting to mothers whom have lost a child that they have wanted and prayed for as a result of an ectopic pregnancy.

I also wonder how valid the statistics are as most women with ectopic pregnancies today will have medical intervention before the pregnancy can be a dangerous threat to the mother’s life that may result in death.

.(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) (Sep 24, 2009 / 16:51 CST)

Yes, as per Somebody’s Mom and Mitch, I unfortunately had a doctor that didn’t take the risk of ectopic pregnancy seriously. 

He did not warn me after I went to the ER for severe cramps and discovered I was “preganant” that, at any moment’s notice, thereafter, if the pregnancy was ectopic as he told me could be true that I could drop dead.  I should have been told not to be alone, to always carry a phone and be near a hospital, not to travel and so on until we could determine if the pregnancy was in the uterus.  Instead he failed to take the risk seriously, failed to do proper followup and TWO WEEKS LATER, I COLLAPSED IN ABOUT 5 MINUTES, AND WERE I NOT IN FRONT OF A PHONE, WOULD BE DEAD.

It is not possible to find any doctor in the OBGYN community that would treat a woman attempting to allow a fetus to grow in a tube the size of finger to term.  I also inquired afterwards if the fertilized egg could have been placed in my uterus, a surrogate or some other scenario and could find no doctor out of the many I asked that said yes or would have handled trying such a procedure. 

There is no ethical or religious decision here. 

Not advising that death in an instant to a woman with any suspicion of an ectopic pregnancy is a very real risk is actively counseling women to attempt suicide.

THE ARTICLE INFORMATION ABOVE SHOULD BE REMOVED.

.(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) (Jun 21, 2009 / 19:28 CST)

For the most part, i am completely pro- life. But what if the girl was raped or sexually assualted? She might not be able to have the baby,because of the emotional tramua of it all? I think it would be SO much to handle just if you were violated, but to be pregnat to? Some people couldn’t do that. That is the only scenario I believe justifies possibly having an abortion.

.(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) (Jun 17, 2009 / 22:11 CST)

I totally agree with you that many pro-abortionist use the extreme cases to justify all abortions, like rape or insest etc. But this is an issue of life and death, I don’t think we should brush off this issue because what abortion groups say.  Many pro-life groups hold to the same view as I, that abortion to save the life of the mother is a very serious matter and should only be done at the last resort. When it comes to ectopic-tubal pregnancies, I think it is dangerous for us to tell those women to try to be heros and risk their own lives if their child is going to die anyway. How could we still say we are pro-life? I would love to say that abortion can never ever be justified, but I can’t in this case.

I know at least three other woman who had ectopic pregnancies, in all three cases the pregnancy ruptured their tubes and they bled severely, (this is because a large artery runs on the outside of each fallopian tube), without any medical intervention they would have bled to death. This condition is very serious and shouldn’t be looked at lightly.

.(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) (Jun 17, 2009 / 19:46 CST)

mitch, your point may be valid.  I am not in that position, I know; but I still feel as long as there is a chance I wouldn’t do it (I’m not saying this must be the only way to go - I don’t know enough about this.  I think part of my feelings is based upon my personality, which is too hard to explain here.).  However, my bigger concern is with the other ways abortion is justified, such the “reduction” of multiples, that are in no way excusable.  I think too many pro-abortionists harp on the “necessary” abortions as their excuse for all abortions.

.(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) (Jun 17, 2009 / 01:11 CST)

NannyM think of it this way, if you were given the option of; 1. Your baby will die or 2. You and the baby will die. Which would you take? Any ectopic tubal pregnancy is not viable so it will die whether or not you have it removed to save the mother’s life. It is easy to say that you would never choose the first option. But honestly until you are put in that situation you will never know.

If there was a way to save the child I would take it. If the ectopic pregnancy had implanted in the abdomen and had a slight chance of survival, I would have taken that chance! :)

.(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) (Jun 16, 2009 / 21:46 CST)

Now, I don’t have kids, but I do feel very strongly about this.  I feel as if the mother is playing God if she decides to abort her baby in any way for the sake of saving her own life.  God knows how to handle the situation, why not simply trust Him?  I’d rather die myself then murder my child.  If a person told you to take a gun and shoot your child or die, would you shoot your child to save yourself?
This article deepens my convictions.

.(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) (May 22, 2009 / 23:24 CST)

I too am 100% prolife!! Abort73.com is great. You guys have made a real impact on my pro-life stance. However when it comes to ectopic - tubal pregnancies to an extend I disagree with “watching, waiting and praying” for the pregnancy to resolve itself.

I was diagnosed with an etopic pregnancy in my right tube, six weeks into my pregnancy. I had been bleeding for two weeks. I had weekly blood tests to see if my hormone levels would keep rising, which they did. I prayed and waited, hoping that it would resolve itself. But it didn’t.  This is the point which something had to be done. I ask you should I have waited for my tube to rupture and risk bleeding to death, and then at the same time hope that there may be slightest chance of the pregnancy re-implanting in my uterus? I think God would want us to have faith in our doctors to know when the operation is necessary. For example if someone had cancer and the doctor suggested they remove it, would it not be ignorant to just watch, wait and pray for God to heal you. I’m not saying praying is bad, but we should also be responsible and make use the medical assistance that God has provided.

.(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) (Apr 18, 2009 / 07:48 CST)

I am 100% pro-life, but I find these words re: ectopic pregnangy, most disturbing:  “the most ethically sound decision would simply be to watch, wait and pray.”  ANYONE with an ectopic pregnancy should be under the constant care and supervision of an OB-GYN.  Making that clear is a matter of life and death, especially when the patient may be a teenager who watches, waits and prays, at home, alone!
Your statistics sound impressive, but I can’t help but wonder if they’re not a little skewed because most ectopics are taken care of before the health of the mother is put at risk.  Michael’s message of life and love is wonderful and the world needs to hear more of it.  But he’s not a medical doctor and should not hand out advice like one.
I speak from experience, having had an ectopic pregnancy.  I was bleeding and in a great deal of pain.  Watching and waiting were not an option for me.